The LighterLife debate continued
I wanted to reply to the people who had left further comments on the previous post LighterLife 'misled' its clients says the BBC, which seems to have stirred a few emotions and debates. I also received an email from a woman called Caroline, who seemed to be particularly upset that I hadn't emphasised the plus points of the LighterLife regime...ahem, I mean programme (sorry)!
Firstly, thanks for taking the time to comment. It is very much appreciated. Secondly, the defense of LighterLife has surprised me somewhat, especially considering that Chocolate and Beyond is, after all, in support of a diet-free existence (and therefore won't support diets, especially not those with reported negative health effects!).
I think I just need to reiterate that what I do believe is that we all have the power within ourselves to change our approach to food and our relationship to eating, without a diet or an expert to tell us what to do. However, I am certainly not purporting to be an 'expert'; the conclusions that I make within my posts on this site are usually based on my own experience, or from my research, or from the experiences of other women.
The dieting industry is a multi-million pound one and will do all it can within its power to maintain the belief that dieting works. I, on the other hand, have nothing to gain from taking the time to write this blog, other than a desire to help people break free from what I, and countless other women, see as a trap and a prison. However, when you have achieved a lot of weight loss quickly from a diet, I know how those first few months in new cloths feel, and how it truly sells itself to you. Particularly, if you have been overweight for a long time and haven't managed to find a solution.
When I lost over 3 stone counting 'fat grams' in my early 20s, I wouldn't have ever slated diets - I was on the 'side' of the diet industry fully and would have easily 'blamed' a person for not being as in control of their weight loss as I felt I had been. Still, I had a constant need to 'watch' my weight and even so,put some of the weight back on a few years later (the penny hadn't dropped at this point). I did Atkins and lost a stone very quickly, I was over the moon. But its wasn't sustainable for me.
'Real life' crept in, I started eating the general stuff that anyone eats (though I'm quite into food that feels healthy for me - lots of nutrition rather than crap), and soon I weighed more than before I started Atkins and was battling with real eating issues.
Now, I feel like I've wasted many years battling with the same 1 or 2 stones, writing out 'eating plans' and calculating every morsel that goes in my mouth, shopping for low-fat, tasteless garbage, and generally being unnaturally obsessed by the way I eat and what I eat. However, after giving up diets a year and half ago, I have never felt freer. Back in my diet days, I didn't realise that you DON'T HAVE to constantly watch your weight!
Now, I DO agree that many people need support to find their way and to tackle the emotional - or even subconscious - issues (and yes, I think the counselling appears to be one 'bonus' of the LighterLife programme). I also feel that I cannot speak from the position of someone who has been considerably obese, as I haven't (although 3 stone overweight and size 18 felt pretty obese to me at age 22), so I'm happy to accept that if you've never found a solution and it works for you in the LONG TERM, then that is wonderful.
Having said that, Sally makes a comment that frightens me somewhat: "Yes there ARE side effects as has been stated, although I was lucky - I had no hair loss, nor did I have problems with my periods (over and above going through menopause which is a different ball game entirely!) Atlanta took pains always to advise about side effects and in fact recommended a remedy shampoo which people could use to help with any hair problem."
A remedy shampoo because the side-effects from a diet could be so severe? That, to me, is just incredible and well, wrong!
As well, Sally says: "I would say to anyone who wants to give it a go - you have nothing to lose except a lot of weight!". But, if it doesn't work you do have a lot to lose, don't you? A lot of money, self-esteem (at feeling like a failure), health and even, yes, hair and menstruation!
Chocolate and Beyond, as my site and personal journey, is not proposing to be the panacea to all weight problems, but it is about highlighting to women that there ARE alternatives to dieting. If you are overweight, by only eating when you are hungry, tuning in to what you eat, and stopping when you've had enough (but are not full), you would start to lose weight - even if you have a lot to lose.
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Thank you for being a sane voice amid all this diet madness!
Posted by: Bri | April 17, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Thanks for your support Bri - it is good to see that sanity does exists out there! And I love your blog.
Posted by: Andrea Wren | April 17, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I applaud your anti-diet stance, but I think the google ads at the end of your posts hopelessly contradict your message.
Posted by: Rachel | April 17, 2008 at 02:29 PM
Rachel - I appreciate your point.
As you will know, I'm sure, I don't have any control over what is thrown up there, and I'm not techie enough to know how to hone the ads further so that diets aren't promoted, as I understand that is a possibility?
If I can't find a solution it might be that I take Google ads off altogether - at the moment the extremely small revenue from them just about pays for my subscription to my blog package.
Posted by: Andrea Wren | April 17, 2008 at 06:44 PM
Dearest Andrea,
I’d like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for making this blog available. Chocolate and Beyond Blog was one of the first sites that I discovered when I began my own Intuitive Eating journey nearly 18 months ago. I strongly feel that I wouldn’t have pursued the path of learning how to trust myself around food or love my body if I wouldn’t have had the benefit of reading your posts and learning from your experiences.
This blog and your willingness to share your journey has been one of my greatest sources of inspiration and encouragement. It gave me the strength to carry on when things were getting very rocky and uncertain and I was gaining weight like crazy.
Despite all the pain and conflict that I was in, I just knew from your posts that there was a light at the end of the tunnel.
I deeply appreciate your commitment to share with your readers and give unselfishly of yourself in hopes of educating people and giving them hope to find a solution beyond dieting.
Now as a passionate supporter of non dieting myself, I join you in the battle to increase awareness of the deleterious effects of dieting on our bodies and our self esteem.
As a coach, I've learned that if we have a negative self esteem, emotional eating becomes an unconscious habit that can not be broken by any act of sheer will. Since like many women, I have had my share of painful experiences that have left their marks on me, my self esteem has taken a real beating over the years.
Lacking any other stress coping skills, food has been my only source of comfort for decades. I thought that my weight problem was due to being lazy or unmotivated or proved that I was undisciplined. That thinking continued to reinforce my already negative self image.
When I began to watch the weight piling back on me, I felt so powerless, and conflicted, much like a failure. As a result of feeling that way, I just wanted to keep eating to stop the parade of hurtful thoughts that were marching around in my head. It became a vicious cycle. Stress-Desire to Eat-Self Hatred-Stress-Eat-Self Hatred-Stress-Eat...
When I learned in my NLP class that our habits form based on associations that we make in our brain, I realized that my desire to eat was a cry for help.
I had no other way to deal with my stress besides eating. By sending signals to my body and urging me to eat, my brain was only doing what it could to keep me from from being completely overwhelmed by stress. The eating made it all seem more bearable temporarily, yet the cycle of food abuse continued.
This is why I couldn't seem to stop eating while I was testing out the process of Intuitive Eating. For me, just legalizing food was not the answer, I had to also get very aggressive in dealing with my stress.
When I realized that I was not able to satisfy my hunger and to discover when I felt full, I knew that I had to continue finding a solution that would work for me and for other women who also have suffered with a negative self image.
That's when I discovered the power of Emotional Freedom Technique, or EFT. It's based on the science of Acupuncture and it works to balance the energy in the body. It has since changed my life and affected everything that I do from running my business to dealing with my relationships. It has empowered me to believe in myself again. Now I have the power to choose what I want literally at my fingertips.
When I started using EFT, and handling the emotions and negative self talk that cropped up on a daily basis, my hunger started to disappear. As I continue to use it more and more each day, my weight continues to drop slowly and gently and my confidence increases exponentially. I like to call it 'confidence in a bottle' since it has enabled me to step out of my comfort zones and really take hold of my life without the crutch of eating.
I can't recommend this process enough as I feel strongly that it in combination with learning how to eat intuitively has given me my life back.
It’s understandable that any staunch dieter would perceive of any non diet method as being a ridiculous, pie in the sky dream that would only end up in failure. Blinded by the promise of a quick weight loss, dieters are led into a maze of lies and deceit by the diet organizations. In the face of all that confusion, it’s not easy navigating the muddy waters of learning how to trust your body and eat in response to your hunger. It goes against everything that we’ve learned as good dieters. It’s tough out there and let’s be honest diets are really just a band aid that we apply to our lives because we’ve been led to believe that if we don’t lose weight, our lives can’t begin.
I deeply empathize with the woman who felt the need to slam you for sharing your thoughts about the LighterLife program. She must have felt deeply disempowered to have had to come to the rescue of LighterLife in such a passionate way. That tells me that she feels that LighterLife has the answer to her problems and without their program she would melt away. I’m saddened by that and hope that I am wrong in my assumption.
My prayer is that one day this woman will see that only she or her daughter or any of us hold the power over our own lives. It doesn’t come in a bottle, or a pre-packaged meal or a meeting room. It is the thoughts, passions and choices that we make on a daily basis that lead to the behaviors that either contribute to our problems or help to resolve them.
There is an answer for each one of us out there. Yet the way to find it is by looking within, rather than without. I support you on your continued commitment to teaching others and inspiring greater curiosity and wisdom in support of reclaiming our power over food and learning trust our bodies without dieting. Thank you,
Andrea
Posted by: Andrea Amador | April 17, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Thanks Andrea, I am glad you enjoyed reading F.L.O.G.!
Posted by: Bri | April 18, 2008 at 01:42 AM
"Having said that, Sally makes a comment that frightens me somewhat: "Yes there ARE side effects as has been stated, although I was lucky - I had no hair loss, nor did I have problems with my periods (over and above going through menopause which is a different ball game entirely!) Atlanta took pains always to advise about side effects and in fact recommended a remedy shampoo which people could use to help with any hair problem."
A remedy shampoo because the side-effects from a diet could be so severe? That, to me, is just incredible and well, wrong!
As well, Sally says: "I would say to anyone who wants to give it a go - you have nothing to lose except a lot of weight!". But, if it doesn't work you do have a lot to lose, don't you? A lot of money, self-esteem (at feeling like a failure), health and even, yes, hair and menstruation!"
RIGHT - well Sally Says she wants a right of reply here!!
First of all - one thing I've learned in Beyond Chocolate is "BE YOUR OWN GURU" and if that means accepting at least some of the benefits of Lighter Life then SO BE IT!!!!!!! Who are YOU to knock an alternative to what YOU think is the right path? We all take different paths in life - some of which may be right for us and some of which might be right for other people.
SECONDLY - YES I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT LIGHTER LIFE ISN'T A DRASTIC SOLUTION TO BEING OBESE and YES it does have side effects - and isn't it better that a product is recommended to help combat those side effects than the person is left to flounder unaided?!
I wonder WHY you (and some others) are so hostile towards something which I do feel has helped me considerably. I'd tried other ways of losing weight before and they had never worked, precisely because there was no counselling element to such programmes as Weight Watchers and Slimming World - only "classes" or "meetings". The Lighter Life approach worked for me - SO DOES BEYOND CHOCOLATE. Please get over yourself!
I am sorry to be so angry - BUT I AM
Sally
Posted by: Sally Roberts | April 19, 2008 at 03:18 PM
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Interesting to see that one of your "prestigious clients" is Weightwatchers Magazine, Andrea!
Posted by: Sally Roberts | April 19, 2008 at 10:03 PM
I don't think it's appropriate to threaten people, Sally.
'you get on the wrong side of me and you will see how powerful i can be'
Posted by: fiona | April 20, 2008 at 01:29 PM